There is a Morris Burton #3, which I know @tonyOmahaz5 has grown and I have scion for this year and grafted. I believe Cliff is the original source and since Buzz has gotten a lot of varieties from Cliff over the years maybe it is the same? I don’t really know anything else about it except reports that it is supposed to be good. If you ever find out anything more from Buzz and whether it might be the same as Morris Burton #3 I hope you’ll post it here.
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The soak in water may have made the difference. As you know, we get awful dry up here in PNW sometimes in late spring and usually in the summer. Good data.
I’m not an amazing grafting whiz. I just go for it and some of them take. I’m trying to learn from the rest of you. Hopefully, I get a little better each decade. 
John S
PDX OR
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I found the attachment for my meat grinder to process like this. Looks pretty fast and easy. The video is from Oikos and gives some ideas for usage.
That mill is called a “squeezeo” I believe. Theres a cheaper generic version available too.
Personally, I like to freeze ‘simmons whole. Theyre ljke popsicle bonbons!
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Think it’s a Roma. Amazon is loaded with knock offs. I already had the meat grinder, so the attachment was the cheap way to go for me. Saw some people on the forum using the mill for apples as well.
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A118. That one seems to produce fairly young.
I heard from someone on the forum that the variety ‘large morris burton’ that I posted about was a Don Compton selection. Perhaps the other numbered Morris Burtons are also.
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@Luisport … thank you for the ripening details.
Those are huge and I sure hope to get to try one some day.
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Hi Trev, For me here in southern PA 100-46 ripens in late October. Many times it barely gets ripe before we have our first frost. I would guess it could ripen a couple weeks earlier where you are at there.
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@mvfd801 … Thank you sir for the ripening details. Could be early or mid October for me… we normally get first hard frost mid Nov.
I can tell by his description that Cliff likes the taste of 100-46. He says very good flavor… then all about the taste.
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I spent most of my life in TN. Most of my family still lives there (south of Jackson) so I’m familiar with the frost dates at least in McNairy County. Our frost date is about the same here in the fall but our Spring is quite a bit later here which along with the summer being a bit cooler tends to make you a couple weeks ahead of us.
100-46 is the most precocious persimmon I have. It bore fruit the next year after I grafted it. It produces so much that it will break the branches if you don’t take measures to support it. The flavor is quite good. The one defect that I have noted is that it tends to crack on the stem end which causes some of the fruit to discolor and spoil sometimes.
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Well, it looks like all of my t-buds failed. I had one that stayed green for a long time, and I thought it would make it. Apparently not, though. I wonder if I had tried to force it this year it would have worked, thinking about how persimmon can reject grafts if there is any competing growth from the rootstock…
Anyway, I guess I’ll be on the hunt for Dar Sofiyivki this winter.
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I have a couple that are still green as of a few days ago. They haven’t pushed yet, but Im trying still.
I have several sizing up nicely. Will give a taste report later this year.
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My fields were bushhogged July 7th… today Aug 11th… i have persimmon shoots up and 18" tall, some taller. Most of them will be 3 ft tall and 5/16 inch diameter by fall.
I saved 5 young persimmons from the July bushhoging… to be used as rootstocks for next spring grafting. They will be 5 ft tall 1/2 inch diameter by fall.
I literally have a never ending supply of great persimmon rootstock.
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the best rootstock is the stuff you dont have to plant
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That’s great. I wish I had more desirable and healthy rootstocks situated on my property for grafting.
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My 3 persimmon grafts on Jiro and Hachiya all failed unfortunately. The trees already had branched out few inches and I didn’t cut the active competitive growths back so it looked like the tree just rejected the graft and sealed itself off. I don’t think it was the technique., I think I may have just grafted too late when the tree had plenty of non-grafted options to push growth on.
Next year I will try grafting on a small headed back seedling.
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