Thanks Darrel for those informations. In my area killing frost in suppose to begin in november but since 2/3 years it happens early december.
I asked the hungarian nursery about rootstock, i wait for their answer. Do you know if i can order seedlings in the usa and plant my own rootstock?
And José i just realised that the trees at 4500 florint are seedlings… I have no idea about how much cost the grafted trees as it’s written out of stock. I’m waiting for their answer…
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Vince, the normal thing for pecan trees is that the nursery sends graft seedlings , whit one year and are about 70 centimeters high (27-30 inches), that is normal.
The seedlings that cost 4,500 florins are grafted seedlings, what we do not know is what variety they use as rootstock.
I haven’t spoken to them yet, tomorrow is my day off, I will send them an email.
Vince, plant material cannot be introduced through European customs without having an importer’s license (it is extremely complex).
You can only send and receive cuttings by regular mail with the risk of being detained at customs.
This should only be done with plant material with all phytosanitary guarantees, to avoid importing or exporting pests and diseases.
Regards
Jose
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Vince, the rootstock produced by Fruitex, is of good quality.
The owner of the nursery is called Ramon Rovira, and a very good friend.
In this nursery they have the collection of varieties from CICYTEX (Center for Scientific and Technological Research of Extremadura), and it is possible that one of them is suitable for you.
This is their collection of varieties:
Darrell will tell you if any of those varieties are suitable for your climate and soil.
Vince, it happens to you like me 20 years ago when I started collecting varieties of pluots, in the first year I already wanted to have all the varieties hahahaha, and that is impossible.
Calm that Rome wasn’t built in a week.
Regards
José
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In that list, only Stuart is a good candidate for rootstock for vince11. I would consider Pawnee, however, I don’t know how vigorous Pawnee seedlings would be.
Jose, can you put these search terms into google and see if you find some additional pecan tree sources in Hungary?
pekándió site:*.hu
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Hi Darrell.
pekándió site:*.hu , is a excellent engine search system , to locate more varieties in Hungary, which is already having rewards.
On this website, there are some varieties that may be interesting:
https://www.egzotikusdisznovenyek.hu/?s=Pekandio&post_type=product
Varieties like these:
- kreek
- Excel
- Pawnee
- Kanza
- Carlson
- Snaps
But they have their own pollination chart, which makes me think that perhaps they have more varieties.
I will continue investigating and I will update you on all the varieties that I find in Hungarian nurseries.
Best regards
José
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I’ve arranged to visit Auburn University pecan grove. Would either of you like to get a few pounds of pecans to grow or to eat? It will cost about $120 to ship 10 pounds o Europe.
ACE/ECLIPSE
Adams 1
Adams 5
Amling
Apalachee
BabyB
Barton
CHERRYLE
Creek
Cunard
Desirable
Elliott
Ellis
Excalibur
Excel
Gafford
Giftpack
Headquarters
Hickory Major
Izzy
Jenkins
Kanza
Kiowa
Lakota
Leander
Mandan
McMillan
Miss L
Moreland
Nacono
OCONEE
Oswego
Pippin 09-3
Pippin 09-4
Pippin 09-7
PIPPIN CM-13
Posey
SHOTTS
SMC
SME
Southern State
Staten
Staten
Stuart
Surprize
Syrup Mill
Tobacco Barn
Wamble
Zinner
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Jose i don’t think that the 450 flt trees are grafted… Look at the price of grefted trees in the other hungarian nursery… Anyway we’ll see when he ll answer our messages 
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Haha i understand what you mean, i don’t want to have 10 different cultivars but i’ll like to have 4 different. (2 couples for pollinisation). Do you know how much fruitex sell the rootstock? I’d like to try to graft some if i found grafted scions…
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Darrel is it possible to take smaller quantities? Thanks!
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Sure, any amount you want. I’m going to get some Lakota for the guy in Croatia. I’ll pick up some for you two as well.
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Great! I think i’ll take a little bit more than a pound to eat a few and plant some. Now i need to find grafting material for next year
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It takes a bit more time vince11. Pecans need 2 or 3 years to get big enough to graft. If you want to graft next spring, you need to purchase rootstocks.
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Vince, you were right, one of the two Hungarian nurseries responded to me.
This :
https://www.egzotikusdisznovenyek.hu/?s=Pekandio&post_type=product
And the seedlings whose price is 4,500 florins are seedlings born from seeds without grafts.
Grafted seedlings cost 25,000 forints (66 euros or dollars) plus the price of shipping from Hungary.
This nursery is not interesting, 66 euros for a 30-40 centimeter grafted plant is armed robbery.
We will wait for a response from the second nursery, which has sold out of grafted plants, to see what price they offer us.
But I’m afraid we’ll have no choice but to graft our trees ourselves.
What I am going to ask you is if you sell us graft cuttings of his varieties of pecan trees.
We can buy rootstock at Fruitex at a good price
Regards
Jose
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OK, good to know! Thanks you Darrel.
Yes that’s a bad news José…Hope he’ll accept to find some cuttings…
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I have family in Canada do you think it’s ok if he buy graft cuttings and send them to me? Is there a chance to transport desease? Having trouble at the border? Does the wood would be ok in for exemple a week of transport? (time to be in Europe…)
thanks for your advices.
But Vince these things are said before hahahaha.
Of course it is appropriate to send a package of graft cuttings from Canada.
No, there is no risk, as long as certain guidelines are followed.
- That the plant material comes from a nursery (there are nurseries that sell cuttings for pecan grafting), or from a plantation, where there is good phytosanitary status.
- It is convenient and I would say mandatory, to carry out the disinfection and hydration process, to have the cuttings free of germs and possible eggs laid by some insect (it can be done upon receipt of the cuttings at your home).
This process :
Spain, for reasons of drug trafficking, has had the tightest customs in the world for some years, and it is quite difficult to introduce plant material without being detected.
I have a method for sending to third countries that is very effective, and customs does not detect packages with parcels (I don’t know if it is very correct to open a post to make this type of explanation), but I can explain you with photographs by message private.
In the event that customs detects the package, there is no type of economic or criminal responsibility for either the sender or the recipient, customs simply sends you a letter so that if you want to pick up the package, you can send them the requested documentation , you no respond to that letter, and they destroy the package and nothing more.
Absolutly " YES " , the normal period of time for a shipment from the United States or Canada is around 10 days, and since it is sent in the middle of winter and the cuttings are perfectly wrapped in plastic kitchen film, they do not suffer from dehydration and will arrive in perfect condition , to be disinfected, rehydrated and refrigerated until the moment of grafting in spring.
Regards
Jose
Sorry if it was already said i’m just discovred the forum a few days before I tried to send you a private message but i can t find where it is! I need to check if i can buy rootstock to fruitex first!
Thank you for those informations!
Hi! Anyone knows a website where i can see how much chilling hours i have where i live? I can’t find one… Thank you!!!
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Hi Vince.
Yes, you can see approximately what your climate is like and have an idea of the cold hours.
This is the Carcassonne climatic table (for food lovers Carcassonne is a paradise), I put the link in English.
https://en.climate-data.org/europe/france/languedoc-roussillon/carcassonne-7870/
From my point of view you have two points in your favor, and two very strong points against you.
Points in your favor:
- The cold hours are all those hours lower than 7° C (44.60° Fahrenheit), cumulative during the winter, and during the nights of December, January, February, and half of October you have lower temperatures, so you accumulate enough hours of cold for the pecan tree.
- You do not have frost in spring or autumn, and this is very favorable
Points against you:
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Your summer is not excessively hot and you do not even exceed 30° C (86° Fahrenheit), in the warmest months of July and August.
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Your big problem is humidity, since you have rain in spring and summer, with only one month without precipitation in the month of July (this is terrible for the pecan tree and you will need to choose varieties that are extremely resistant to fungal diseases).
This is my opinion, but Darrell will give you the final verdict.
Regards
Jose
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Yes, vince11 needs scab resistance as a primary selection criteria. I suggested some good varieties above. All can handle the climate and all are scab resistant.
Adams #5
Amling
Hark
Kanza
Lakota
Oswego
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