I find twisting the fruits a few revolution would break it off easily on my fuju tree.
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I imagine a good option could be an electric ryobi pole pruner/lopper (or similar) and just retrofitting a small wire rim basket or net onto the tool.
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I have the ARS 4-7ft telescopic pruners with both a regular head for pruning, and the cut and hold head for harvesting. For pruning it’s a fantastic tool; for harvesting it’s super awesome and can surprisingly hold on to a lot of weight. Mostly I use it for things like pomegranates because mine are planted on a steep slope, but one can easily stay clear of getting pricked! Anyways, I have a big old persimmon that I have to use the long-reach off a ladder to get th high-up hachiyas without damaging them, and it works great for that task if it’s within reach. The rotating head is a nice feature too. All metal and very high quality on par with something like Felco pruners.
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I find the ARS pruner on Amazon but don’t see the cut and hold head you mention.
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Give it a week or two for the leaf to grow bigger then you can tell. But I am leaning towards the root sucker.
Tony
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They sell two versions of the long reach pruners, the only difference is the cutting head.
I also have ARS 6ft loppers, which I broke the head off of - customer service sent me a replacement head, but it was for the long reach pruners, not the loppers. Called and they sent me the correct head, and told me to keep the part. Since I had a part and it looked really nice, I decided to buy the cut and hold pruners, and just swap out heads when I need the other tool.
I easily found the part elsewhere online but I think this might be the right one on Amazon: Amazon.com
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This seedling at bottom center has more rounded leaves compared to other seedlings, that look more oval-ish. Not sure parents, but from a small persimmon orchard with 10 diff varieites at least. Any other american persimmon have slightly diff leaf shape?
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I think those are what I have as well. The model I bought looks like its replaced with a newer version. They are expensive but ARS is high quality and my impression is that they have better engineering/design than Felco.
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I noticed that my chocolate, that probably had over a thousand male flowers but only a few female and just set one persimmon, is now setting a second round of flowers from new growth. It did this last year after I pulled the few fruit since it was a small tree, but I thought that might be a one time thing. Looks like it is trying for a round 2 this year as well. These will be late, but I did get a couple pieces of fruit from the second flush next year.
I’m wondering if the bug on the leaf by the buds is an assassin bug. I’m hoping it is and that it will keep the tree safe.
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Turns out that is probably just another clouded plant bug, not an assassin. At least it won’t do any real damage to a persimmon.
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Did a bunch more grafting today.
@armyofda12mnkeys sent me a bunch of extra scions - thanks again!
Since my two dormant onto green trial grafts appear very successful, and have pushed more growth so far than my traditional grafts, I decided to primarily graft onto green today.
Here is the most vigorous graft on green that was done 23 days ago. DEC Goliath.
Many of these DV that were planted last year have pushed out ~4 feet of growth in only about 4 weeks.
Grafton green example.
Current state of what is grafted now. Hope most make it. Previous grafts all look good except for all three Hershey fruit dump havent done anything, bad scion maybe. And, the original Kasandra grafts were also very weak, so I redid two of those with extra scions from Ari.
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I tried my luck with some green grafting this evening. I’m hopeful it is a good method. I suspect improved cambium contact will be available and my main concern is hardening off properly and overwintering with this strategy.
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Just saw Perfect Circle persimmon for sale.
Anything interesting still left?
Any idea what “Blitz Netnaja”, or “Kujinajo” is?
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Kujinajo is probably Kujinaja, a known variety. I grafted it a few months ago.
I think the concerns about American persimmon trees getting enormous is overstated, particularly for people in the North. It seems that the huge trees, from what I’ve read, are the 60 chromosome ones in the Mississippi delta, for example. The ones you can buy are all 90 chromosome trees. Mine have never gotten too big here in Oregon and I’ve grown them for 15 years, maybe?
JohN S
PDX OR
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I have a dozen or so 60 chromosome trees behind my house. The largest is about 14 inches diameter and 50 to 60 feet tall. Not disagreeing with you, just pointing out that larger and taller trees are not unique to Mississippi.
My American persimmons are dwarf compared to Kakis. They really don’t want to grow in my climate.
Pawpaws are much faster growing and they are supposed to be slow.
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MMV. I have 80’ tall with 13" diameter in SE Ohio, which I assume is 90 chromosone territory. They grew competing for canopy so they aren’t wide though.
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East Texas tallest I’ve seen is 35 feet
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